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	<title>Comments on: Idiocy and Iraqi New Year</title>
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	<description>The ongoing ramblings of a young Egyptian student stuck in Germany..</description>
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		<title>By: halalhippie</title>
		<link>http://realmofthesphinx.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/idiocy-and-iraqi-new-year/#comment-1851</link>
		<dc:creator>halalhippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, maybe I&#039;m just regurgitating some hearsay, let&#039;s see what I can find: According to Wikipedia, after the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar#Aftermat&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Battle of Khaybar &lt;/a&gt;, the Prophet &quot; asked [Kinana ibn al-Rabi] to locate the tribe&#039;s treasure, al-Rabi denied knowing where it was. (snip). Muhammad ordered Al-Zubayr to torture al-Rabi until he revealed the location of the rest[of the treasure], then handed him to Muhammad ibn Maslamah, whose brother had died in the battle, to be beheaded.&quot;

Torturing and beheading a surrendered enemy is objectionable BY TODAY&#039;S STANDARDS as is, of course, the story of A&#039;isha (whether she was 6 or 9 or 12) but, and this is my point, we shouldn&#039;t judge ppl from another era by our standards (neither should we live by theirs).

Doing so (applying modern standards to historical events or vice versa) is ...hmm.... counter-productive in my humble opinion.

I have serious problems with Muslims who judge present situations by 1400-old standards, and even more if they want me to abide by them. 

The life of the Prophet gets more fascinating the more I learn. He was a truly remarkable historical figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, maybe I&#8217;m just regurgitating some hearsay, let&#8217;s see what I can find: According to Wikipedia, after the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar#Aftermat" rel="nofollow"> Battle of Khaybar </a>, the Prophet &#8221; asked [Kinana ibn al-Rabi] to locate the tribe&#8217;s treasure, al-Rabi denied knowing where it was. (snip). Muhammad ordered Al-Zubayr to torture al-Rabi until he revealed the location of the rest[of the treasure], then handed him to Muhammad ibn Maslamah, whose brother had died in the battle, to be beheaded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Torturing and beheading a surrendered enemy is objectionable BY TODAY&#8217;S STANDARDS as is, of course, the story of A&#8217;isha (whether she was 6 or 9 or 12) but, and this is my point, we shouldn&#8217;t judge ppl from another era by our standards (neither should we live by theirs).</p>
<p>Doing so (applying modern standards to historical events or vice versa) is &#8230;hmm&#8230;. counter-productive in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>I have serious problems with Muslims who judge present situations by 1400-old standards, and even more if they want me to abide by them. </p>
<p>The life of the Prophet gets more fascinating the more I learn. He was a truly remarkable historical figure.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sphinx</title>
		<link>http://realmofthesphinx.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/idiocy-and-iraqi-new-year/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sphinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going medieval on anybody :) And I admit that it&#039;d be better not to stoop to this level, but sometimes a stupid remark deserves a stupid response.
However I disagree with the part about torture and indiscriminate killings. These are things repeated by anti-Islamic website who probably have nothing better to do than sit around and say: &quot;Hmm, what can we accuse Islam of now? Ah yes, [action xyz] seems evil enough, lets smear them with it&quot;. Other than that you wouldn&#039;t have idiots claiming that the Quran advocates rape.
I&#039;d be interested though in where you heard that though. I&#039;m not blaming you for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going medieval on anybody <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And I admit that it&#8217;d be better not to stoop to this level, but sometimes a stupid remark deserves a stupid response.<br />
However I disagree with the part about torture and indiscriminate killings. These are things repeated by anti-Islamic website who probably have nothing better to do than sit around and say: &#8220;Hmm, what can we accuse Islam of now? Ah yes, [action xyz] seems evil enough, lets smear them with it&#8221;. Other than that you wouldn&#8217;t have idiots claiming that the Quran advocates rape.<br />
I&#8217;d be interested though in where you heard that though. I&#8217;m not blaming you for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: halalhippie</title>
		<link>http://realmofthesphinx.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/idiocy-and-iraqi-new-year/#comment-1845</link>
		<dc:creator>halalhippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beg to differ: such spittings as the above can hardly be called debate. If you value your religion/history/culture you won&#039;t stoop to this level.

I could say &quot;looks like the Prophet got into conflicts with other Arabs. Sometimes he would do acts (like torture and indescriminate killings and polygamy) that are - by today&#039;s standards - unacceptable. But were &quot;normal&quot; at the day and time. It looks like &quot;some&quot; Muslims today who try to emulate his ways, find excuses for being unacceptably violent. In other words:
some of the ideas of the Prophet may - in the wrong heads - turn explosive [insert bomb-in-turban-cartoon here] . I, as a modern Westerner, find it difficult to respect such jihadist belief. 

Now , I basically said the same thing, are you gonna get medieval on my infidel ass ?  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ: such spittings as the above can hardly be called debate. If you value your religion/history/culture you won&#8217;t stoop to this level.</p>
<p>I could say &#8220;looks like the Prophet got into conflicts with other Arabs. Sometimes he would do acts (like torture and indescriminate killings and polygamy) that are &#8211; by today&#8217;s standards &#8211; unacceptable. But were &#8220;normal&#8221; at the day and time. It looks like &#8220;some&#8221; Muslims today who try to emulate his ways, find excuses for being unacceptably violent. In other words:<br />
some of the ideas of the Prophet may &#8211; in the wrong heads &#8211; turn explosive [insert bomb-in-turban-cartoon here] . I, as a modern Westerner, find it difficult to respect such jihadist belief. </p>
<p>Now , I basically said the same thing, are you gonna get medieval on my infidel ass ?  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Sphinx</title>
		<link>http://realmofthesphinx.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/idiocy-and-iraqi-new-year/#comment-1842</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sphinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, you&#039;re right about that. I guess the stupidity of this individual&#039;s statement humiliates him enough, without me having to add anything.
Guess I was just angry..

The thing is though, many people expect Muslims to keep their heads bowed down in shame, and accept all the insults we&#039;re getting, without even letting out a peep of protest. The question here is where turning-the-other-cheek crosses the border of abandoning your dignity..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you&#8217;re right about that. I guess the stupidity of this individual&#8217;s statement humiliates him enough, without me having to add anything.<br />
Guess I was just angry..</p>
<p>The thing is though, many people expect Muslims to keep their heads bowed down in shame, and accept all the insults we&#8217;re getting, without even letting out a peep of protest. The question here is where turning-the-other-cheek crosses the border of abandoning your dignity..</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would Mohammed spit back? No, he wouldn&#039;t, neither should you if your goal is to represent muslims in a good light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would Mohammed spit back? No, he wouldn&#8217;t, neither should you if your goal is to represent muslims in a good light.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sphinx</title>
		<link>http://realmofthesphinx.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/idiocy-and-iraqi-new-year/#comment-1838</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sphinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we Muslims spit on you.
Tsk, what manners some people have..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we Muslims spit on you.<br />
Tsk, what manners some people have..</p>
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		<title>By: trajan75</title>
		<link>http://realmofthesphinx.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/idiocy-and-iraqi-new-year/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>trajan75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tghis website sucks. Screw you Islamic barabarians. Muhhamed (May He Burn in Hell) Messenger of Lucifer, Dog Hater, genocidal warlord and Pedophile would be considered in insane. I spit on you Muslims!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tghis website sucks. Screw you Islamic barabarians. Muhhamed (May He Burn in Hell) Messenger of Lucifer, Dog Hater, genocidal warlord and Pedophile would be considered in insane. I spit on you Muslims!</p>
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		<title>By: halalhippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>halalhippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not chief of staff inna Merica. It&#039;s a real no-win situation. Damned if they stay, damned if they pull out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not chief of staff inna Merica. It&#8217;s a real no-win situation. Damned if they stay, damned if they pull out.</p>
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		<title>By: ChenZhen</title>
		<link>http://realmofthesphinx.wordpress.com/2008/01/01/idiocy-and-iraqi-new-year/#comment-1783</link>
		<dc:creator>ChenZhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, well, I know LGF isn&#039;t alone.  There&#039;s a whole section of the rightophere that feels compelled to pat ourselves on the back for every indication that we&#039;re putting out the fire that we started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, well, I know LGF isn&#8217;t alone.  There&#8217;s a whole section of the rightophere that feels compelled to pat ourselves on the back for every indication that we&#8217;re putting out the fire that we started.</p>
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